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Joseph Conner Micallef's avatar

My view on gifted and talented programs is that they don’t teach smart kids math or writing or whatever but instead they teach effort. I can only speak for myself but I basically sleep-walked through K-12 and undergrad and my masters program. I briefly went off to a masters at UChicago and just did horribly because it was actually vaguely hard and I had basically never put in effort academically at any point in my life. Gifted and talented programs in theory could help kids like that put in effort by forcing them to from a young age instead of coasting to success. This matters because a lack of effort certainly limits your high-end educational and professional out outcomes.

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Marilyn's avatar

One major thing that I think gets ignored by pretending that some students don't have more ability than others is the damage it does to students and their upward mobility.

Letting a student in who is bright but not overwhelmingly above average into a very rigorous school is a great way to increase their chances of dropping out of college dramatically while at the same time possibly strapping them with student loan debt. The same student may have done very well at a less rigorous school and completed their degree.

The goal of whistling past the graveyard w/r/t to the SAT's ability to predict student success seems to be to create more diverse student bodies with the apparent end goal of improving the outcomes of minority students, but it will almost certainly end up doing the reverse in many cases.

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