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Justin Baeder, PhD's avatar

Two quick points about relative improvement:

1. Mississippi has rocketed up in the NAEP reading rankings because they are using approaches that other states are not using. Something can have a small impact and still be enough to change the ranking, a point you yourself make when pointing out that "A kid who goes from being a 20th percentile reader to a 25th percentile reader thanks to the advantage of phonics instruction over other methods is going to receive real but very modest practical benefits from doing so." MS is doing much more than just phonics, so the the large jump in the rankings is not surprising.

2. I don't think anyone in education is arguing that "nth percentile readers" is a useful concept. Obviously the value in being a better reader is the intrinsic utility of being able to read better, not relative improvement in one's position compared to other readers. Reading proficiently is a skill that nearly all students can develop, and there's no reason to worry about academic ability imposing any kind of cap on how much schools can improve in reading instruction.

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"If phonics were truly magic, you’d expect a huge jump in national/comparative reading comprehension scores wherever phonics gets mandated, durable gains that persist into higher grades without massive extra instruction, uniform benefits across students (rich and poor, strong and weak) in comprehension, and minimal need for other reading supports."

That's precisely what we see in the Mississippi Miracle story—a huge jump in comparistive reading scores on NAEP. Importantly, these gains were observed across all performance bands—top, middle, and bottom deciles, for example.

True, these gains don't persist very strongly into higher grades because, as you hinted at earlier, comprehension (which is based on background knowledge) starts to become more important by the 8th grade NAEP.

But if you're setting a bar here, I don't see how Mississippi isn't clearing it.

For the rest of the story, See Natalie Wexler's work on knowledge-building curriculum:

https://nataliewexler.substack.com/p/whats-really-behind-the-southern

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