Oh I'm definitely not arguing that NONE of it is social conditioning or social norms/pressure. Just that I think it's both and it's sort of a self reinforcing cycle.
In other words, for example, if women collectively decided they wanted to try to end this (and I do think most of the social pressure comes from other women or even their own…
Oh I'm definitely not arguing that NONE of it is social conditioning or social norms/pressure. Just that I think it's both and it's sort of a self reinforcing cycle.
In other words, for example, if women collectively decided they wanted to try to end this (and I do think most of the social pressure comes from other women or even their own moms) they would have to make a concerted effort to work somewhat against their "default" tendencies, in the same way one has to work against say their natural tendencies to overeat for example. I think for men they could much more easily decide to stop this behavior and it wouldn't be that hard for them, or require them to overcome biological/wired in tendencies.
The extra energy and enhanced mood/optimism that testosterone provides is really unfair and not talked about enough. You would have to give men some type of depressant that made them have 20% less energy or lower moods for them to experience what it's like for women. This all used to be common knowledge and the science supports it, but we've all somehow forgotten what is fairly obvious and common sense, bc we all want to believe in gender equality. I mean, you COULD pretty easily give men that experience, as it's what happens if they take estrogen.
Nature didn't make women the same as men because if it did, way too many babies and young kids would die (judging by the not-small portion of men who are perfectly fine with abandoning or neglecting their own kids, absent serious social pressure and penalties).
Oh I'm definitely not arguing that NONE of it is social conditioning or social norms/pressure. Just that I think it's both and it's sort of a self reinforcing cycle.
In other words, for example, if women collectively decided they wanted to try to end this (and I do think most of the social pressure comes from other women or even their own moms) they would have to make a concerted effort to work somewhat against their "default" tendencies, in the same way one has to work against say their natural tendencies to overeat for example. I think for men they could much more easily decide to stop this behavior and it wouldn't be that hard for them, or require them to overcome biological/wired in tendencies.
The extra energy and enhanced mood/optimism that testosterone provides is really unfair and not talked about enough. You would have to give men some type of depressant that made them have 20% less energy or lower moods for them to experience what it's like for women. This all used to be common knowledge and the science supports it, but we've all somehow forgotten what is fairly obvious and common sense, bc we all want to believe in gender equality. I mean, you COULD pretty easily give men that experience, as it's what happens if they take estrogen.
Nature didn't make women the same as men because if it did, way too many babies and young kids would die (judging by the not-small portion of men who are perfectly fine with abandoning or neglecting their own kids, absent serious social pressure and penalties).