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I think it’s logically possible to think that those headwinds along with the specific and potentially amplified headwinds associated with a leftist candidate would be overwhelming in a way that they weren’t for Obama. Articulated that way I’m not sure I agree (but it’s also a slightly different argument now), in particular because I think Obama got a fair amount of juice in ‘08 by being perceived as more left wing than he was.

But of course he also had 3/4 of a billion in fundraising against a candidate who stuck with the public funding of about half that; there’s widely an idea that the sense of moment there was exhausted by it and the Obama presidency such that it can’t be replicated, and so on and so on.

FWIW I think there’s a just-believable-enough not to laugh off path for AOC to the presidency IF she can win the primary AND keep the party from splitting off into a major centrist faction (Bloomberg spoiler campaign); but I also think that’s not worth doing because having a leftist president without a congress would be borderline useless, and certainly a poor use of her talent. But that’s now fully aside from my original q, too.

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No edit button, so as well: nor do I think I’m representing fdb’s point of view here directly above. Damn would I like an edit button

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There's an edit button under the three dots.

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Must be an app vs website thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- I have only share, hide, and delete in the iOS app.

Said app can’t (well, wont) even route me to a specific comment from a notification about it, so it’s probably in need of developer attn anyway...

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