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Computer programmers, project managers, HR, IT, ... I can't work for the state, I can't stand to see people walking-working in slow-motion, burning the clock.

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Me neither. I had a consulting company and did high level technical project management work for some agencies. One contract I would come in and sit in a cubicle all day for six weeks of a six month contract because they could not provision a computer for me, and I could not use my own.

But those employees were all paid as well as their private sector peers, but their real golden ring was to just keep their buts in their seats for 30-35 years so they could retire with a 90% pension and full health care. The value of that is millions. The unfunded government pension liability is a multi trillion dollar whole that government "business" is hiding from the rest of the country.

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Apparently yтАЩall have never worked for a public safety agency. ItтАЩs the opposite of sleepwalking and burning the clock.

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I have law enforcement in my family. They generally earn their pension. I have fire fighters in my family, their total compensation exceeds the value of their labor. We could pay 2/3 what we are paying for fire fighters in our community and still have a line of applicants two blocks long for the positions that open. I have friends and neighbors who are government workers. Their regular pay commensurate with their responsibilities and level of performance compared to the private sector is generally always equal to or exceeds that of the general job market; however, when adding the value of their benefits including their pension, their compensation is significantly greater than is the general labor market.

One problem is that government employees get to retire early. Another is that their pension is too high as a percentage of their pay at retirement. They also do things like pack on OT at the end of their career to inflate that final pension amount.

The multi trillion dollar unfunded government pension liability is one of the country's biggest problems.

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