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Nick Fabry's avatar

Freddie, I love your writing and deep insights on many topics - but I think you missed the mark, by a mile, with this one.

First, the probabilistic arguments you use are ridiculous on their face. You come up with an arbitrary definition of the duration of "humanity" (do Cro-Magnons and Neanderthals count? Why not only the development of agriculture, or go the other way and start with the branching off of primates?), including projecting our existence tens of thousands of years into the future, and argue, what are the odds our particular slice of existence (made arbitrarily small by your flexible assumption about the duration of humanity's existence) is significant? As though all such slices are just like any others?

This is like arguing what are the odds you're going to be involved in a plane crash on your particular flight, since we only have about one hull loss per ten million departures... ignoring the fact that a *wing just came off.*

The wing that came off is the widespread deployment and control of nuclear weapons - we now have the capability to wipe out human civilization in an hour, a power humans (or any other species on Earth) have never before possessed, ever. To argue that this doesn't mean very much is so risible that it makes me question whether you are being serious or not.

A more mundane, but equally important bit of evidence that our current slice of time is highly unusual is the continuing world-wide rise in productivity (and thus living standards). It may be sideways s-curved, or it may be linear, or exponential, but it is still rising, year after year after year, at rates that still exceed anything humanity was able to achieve until the 20th century. And, we've been able to do this with more people than have ever existed simultaneously (8 billion and counting.) That also argues that there is something incredibly unusual about the past 150 years.

You speak as though the fact that "only" 7% of all humans who have ever existed are alive today. That is not small, that is an amazingly vast fraction of humanity that is here right now. Couldn't you argue (using your rather silly equal likelihood baseline above) that since 7% of all humans ever to exist are in existence now, that the odds today is "special" ought to be around 7%?

Your arguments are so unconvincing that I wonder if you're projecting an internal urge to want to believe that the current world is just one more semi-random meandering through the otherwise undistinguished landscape of history. Because I'm quite sure that, assuming we don't nuke ourselves back into pre-history, the 20th century will stand out centuries into the future. Even if technology and productivity is a sideways s-curve and we're on the more slowly increasing part, the point of maximum slope (the mid-20th century) will *still* be of great interest.

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Philippe Saner's avatar

I'd make the opposite argument from similar premises. History is all turning points.

In all of recorded history, I could not name an uneventful century. Every decade changes the world forever. Why should ours be any different?

We wouldn't have the 20s without the 10s or the 10s without the 0s, and so on. Every layer is built upon the layer below it. No doubt a superintelligent historian could reveal millions of vast and far-ranging effects of things that seemed like minor details centuries ago.

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