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This is going to be a bit rambly, so fair warning in advance. It's what happens when Simmons/Ringer/Grantland are mentioned.

For me, The Ringer is to Grantland kind of how Gawker 2.0 is to old Gawker. That's a little harsh to The Ringer, of course, but I just don't check it with the same frequency and excitement that I did Grantland. I'm not totally sure why, but I think part of it is that Grantland didn't read like everything else on the Internet did at the time. It wasn't especially politically progressive or socially conscious, and its pro-analytics voices like Lowe and Barnwell in particular had not yet totally won the battle for the soul of sportswriting. To illustrate the former point, take a look at this Wesley Morris Grantland piece from 2013: https://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/black-panties-drops-the-nearly-perfect-new-r-kelly-album/

I'm not saying this is a good review, but I think it shows effectively just how different 2013 was. There were plenty of Grantland-esque sites and publications in 2013 where one could read a discussion of R Kelly's art that focused mainly on the accusations of him as a sexual predator, but it was also possible to write something like that review without becoming Twitter's main character for a week. The Ringer, to me, feels like a product of the dominant voice and way of thinking for the media in 2022, which is safe, and generally fine. But if they disappeared tomorrow, I wouldn't miss the written articles at all.

Regarding Simmons: what can I say, I like him, despite myself. He is a bit of a hack, full of himself, endlessly mockable. Whenever the Deadspin / Defector guys would come after something he had written, they would usually draw blood precisely because the passage they were quoting was essentially gibberish. But despite all of that, when I would read his writing in the past, there was a certain happiness and excitement in it. The man loved covering sports and pop culture, and he wrote in a way that, even for me, was infectious. He never, thank God, woke up. The ideal Bill Simmons article, for me, would be a piece written in the aftermath of a sporting event that had gone my way.

For example, the 2011 Mavericks-Heat NBA Finals. Today, if you're writing about post-Decision LeBron and the Heat, you may well take the angle that says for the most part only white fans were pissed at him about the whole thing. The vitriol he received was either racist or racially-tinged, and the Mavs were not the "good guys." There is probably some truth in this, but honesty compels me to point out that during that finals, I was strongly rooting for the Mavs and was absolutely thrilled when Dirk won his ring and Finals MVP. In the aftermath of the game when the Mavs sealed it, still a little delirious with excitement over the fact that the team I was rooting for had won, a piece like Simmons' recap was the perfect cherry on top: https://grantland.com/features/nba-finals-game-6-retro-diary/

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Kathleen McCook's avatar

This is a serious question and I need the answer before I make any other comment. How do people have so much time to listen to podcasts? Do they read one thing and listen to another? I am a reader so when would I have time to listen to podcasts w/o taking away from reading? (I realize commutes and exercise but outside of these?)

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