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ReluctantlyYours's avatar

I'm an Israeli and I would have agreed on nearly all counts on October 6. I still think the only way forward is toward Palestinian autonomy. At this point in time, a one-state solution is a death sentence to me, in a way that I think was not true when I inherited leftism from my family. This might be Israel's fault, though I'll refer you to your own article about how it is not only the whites who have agency (are Jews white, anyway? I specifically have Polish roots, but...). I think it is an unmitigated tragedy that of all Israeli governments, THIS one is waging this war. I have zero ideological overlap with them and zero faith in their ability to accomplish even their own professed ends. It doesn't matter to Hamas, though, that I protested against the occupation in the West Bank, refused to contribute to the Occupation in my IDF service, both at personal risk and cost. I must note, though, that the towns Hamas targeted featured people far far braver and nobler than I, with better leftist bonafides, and they will be sorely missed in the discourse because they are dead.

Justice for the Palestinians as Hamas perceives it involves using their own people as meatshields and outsourcing the responsibility for their welfare expressly to the UN. Their blood and soil rhetoric is as disgusting as any you'll find.

They are impeding, not aiding, the Palestinian cause, unless this cause can be articulated as "death to Jews". I'm sorry if it appears to me that the embrace of the Palestinian cause is an excuse for antisemitism, given how far back Hamas pushed said cause and how repugnant Hamas should be to anyone who identifies as a liberal, a humanist, a progressive... No, I'm not sorry at all. I'm disappointed and scared in a way I used to mock my mom for being, because I thought antisemitism was largely a thing of the past. I don't think you're an antisemite, not least because it would be immensely painful to conceive of with how much I appreciate you. You would do well to acknowledge the brutality of the attack against Israel (still ongoing - Hamas violated the ceasefire by refusing to release (female) hostages), the deafening silence of women's organizations, the sheer ignorance fueling some of the discourse, etc etc etc. You say you shouldn't have to, and I agree. Condemnation of all these things should be fucking obvious. Instead we got *praise* for these atrocities. Talk about "context". And I'm forced to be more Zionist than I've ever been because I see more clearly than ever before that Jewish lives, women's, babies', are forfeit in the eyes of the """left""". Everything is a holocaust, everyone are Nazis, except for genocidal attacks against Jews by people who say Hitler had it right. And I'm scared. I'm more scared still of losing my values because of how scared I am. I do not want to the people who spat on Shani Louk's naked corpse as it was paraded in the street to vote for my parliament. It doesn't make me anything but a sane human being.

Anyway, thank you for your tax dollars.

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Priya A.L.'s avatar

I am curious...if one feels this way about Israel, how do we feel about Pakistan? Another country, carved out of British colonial magic cartography, in 1947, specifically for people of one ethnic, religious identity. Indigenous Hindus and Sikhs were tossed out (and vice versa of course from the India side). 20 million displaced, 2 million dead, several wars fought in subsequent years. The difference seems to be that both India and Pakistan tried and succeeded (mostly) in becoming separate countries in a modern sense. India didn't hold the Hindus who were expelled from Pakistan in permanent refugee status awaiting a right of return. There are still territorial disagreements (Kashmir for one) that are being fought over. But neither side denies the other's right to exist. We've moved on. We're trying to build economies, provide for our people, trade with the rest of world, play cricket, etc.

It's all wishful thinking but Israel and Palestine are not unique is what I'm saying. There are ways out of it without laying all the blame at Israel's feet.

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