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Lionel Barrow's avatar

Freddie - I appreciate that unlike a lot of lefty commentators, you're willing to explicitly say you think the reforms proposed by the abundance people are good (although of potentially limited impact). A lot of people either say that very very quietly or not at all.

I do take issue with how you characterize the ideas in the movement at the beginning of the article, though. A lot of left critics write -- sometimes due to an honest misunderstanding, sometimes due to a tactical desire to obscure the discussion -- as if the sole technique proposed by abundance types is deregulation to unleash private sector growth.

But half the ideas in the movement (and this one particular book) are about making *public sector action* more effective and efficient.

A major section of the book is about the failure of the California High Speed Rail project, which floundered amid incredibly restrictive rules on how government projects have to run. The abundance movement is interested in removing -- deregulating -- these restrictions and therefore being able to deliver more public transit. It's a very big part of what we want to do. (I live in Chicago where I would love to build a lot more L lines!) Were you aware of this? And what do you think about it?

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BronxZooCobra's avatar

Just a quick point about regulation American style. As I understand it part of the reason why something like a subway costs 1/8 as much in France or Germany or Japan is the government can sign off on the plan meeting applicable regulations and the project can move forward. In the US we allow legal challenges at every step of the process which dramatically drives up costs.

And of course the rest of the world has a loser pays legal system.

In terms of benefiting the rich - I’ll give you an example. There was a plan to run high voltage lines from Hydro Quebec through parts of New England. It was stopped by “environmental groups” who it turns out were set up and funded by the owners of natural gas powerplants who didn’t want to compete against cheap hydropower.

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